Slovensko
(English below)
V to temo spadajo osnovne informacije in vprašanja glede HackerTrain to FOSDEM.
(tale, prvi komentar bo posodobljen, če bo potrebno)
Kdo je povabljen?
Kdorkoli, ki gre na FOSDEM in bi šel z vlakom in bi se družil na vlaku z drugimi hekerji 
Je pa seveda najlažje, če nameravaš potovati s katerega od teh krajev: Ljubljana ↦ Praga ↦ Ústí nad Labem ↦ Děčin ↦ Bad Schandau ↦ Dresden ↦ Berlin ↦ Deventer ↦ Amersfoort ↦ Amsterdam ↦ Den Haag ↦ Rotterdam ↦ Roosendaal ↦ Antwerpen ↦ Bruselj
Ideja je, da se po trasi nabira čim več ljudi s podobnimi interesi, se imeli fino na poti in končali na FOSDEMu.
Deli povezavo do tega foruma s komurkoli, ki bi ga to zanimalo! (registracija na forum je odprta)
Kaj se bo dogajalo na vlaku?
Na nočnem vlaku od Prage do Bruslja 2025-01-28T17:02:00Z→2025-01-29T08:27:00Z se bomo družili in bomo organizirali manjšo ne-konferenco.
Z European Sleeper smo zmenjeni, da se januarja javimo (specifično @hook) in uskladimo, da bodo sedeže/postelje/kupeje, ki smo jih najeli organizirali tako, da bomo čimbolj na kupu in se tako lahko lažje družili, in hkrati čimmanj motili druge potnike.
Na vlaku (ali vlakih) do Prage ne bo uradno nič organizirano, je pa seveda dobrodošlo, da se ljudje med seboj povežejo že takrat. Za ta namen je lahko v pomoč aplikacija/stran Traewelling.
Trasa, cene in kako kupit karto
European Sleeper pelje traso Praga — Bruselj celo leto, ob torkih, četrtkih in nedeljah.
- SŽ v Prago
- 110 — 240 € povratna (prvo: najcenejša opcija; drugo skupinski popust)
- 05.23 pelje iz Ljubljane (via Jesenice: MV 318S, RJ 532, RJ 256) in pride 17.13 v Prago hl.n.
- 05.00 pelje iz Ljubljane (via Maribor: IC 251, RJ 74) in pride 15.15 v Prago hl.n.; oz. če se prestop v Gradcu zalomi pride ob 17.20 v Prago hl.n. (RJ 256)
- European Sleeper: Praga ↦ Ústí nad Labem ↦ Děčin ↦ Bad Schandau ↦ Dresden ↦ Berlin ↦ Deventer ↦ Amersfoort ↦ Amsterdam ↦ Den Haag ↦ Rotterdam ↦ Roosendaal ↦ Antwerpen ↦ Bruselj
- sedež: 50 € v eno smer
- ležalnik: 80 € v eno smer
- spalnik: 140 € v eno smer
- 18.02 pelje iz Prage in pride 09.27 v Bruselj naslednji dan
Nazaj grede pelje Bruselj — Praga celo leto, ob ponedeljkih, sredah in petkih.
- European Sleeper: (isto v rikverc)
- sedež: 60 € v eno smer
- ležalnik: 90 € v eno smer
- spalnik: 150 € v eno smer
- 19.22 pelje iz Bruslja in pride 11.24 v Prago naslednji dan
- SŽ iz Prage
- 12.42 pelje iz Prage hl.n. (via Maribor: RJ 79, IC 250) in pride 01.01 v Ljubljano naslednji dan
Σ = 220 do 530 € – cena je odvisna od izbrane karte, seveda.
European Sleeper ma elektriko, ampak vzemi razdelilce.
Nočni vlak vsak si kupi karto sam prek te povezave: https://www.europeansleeper.eu/referral?referralCode=TRAINTOFOSDEM
- 10% popusta
- velja za potovanja na tej trasi od 27.1. do 9.2. 2025
- (pozor: potovanje od doma do Prage in nazaj ni vključen v ta link!)
Kaj pa do Prage? Je dovolj časa?
Če gremo do Prage s SŽ isti dan, je časa za prestop samo 49’, kar je v trenutnem stanju na železnicah mogoče malo tvegano, da nam nočni vlak uide.
Zaradi tega smo se v Kiberpipa odločili, da gremo en dan prej v Prago, si tam malo ogledamo mesto, kak hackerspace in prespimo. Seveda lahko prideš do Prage ali katerekoli druge postaji na poti po svoje.
Nazaj grede je bolj časovno udobno in nimamo tega problema.
(Mimogrede: GoOpti ne pelje v Prago; FlixBus sicer pelje, ampak se trasa sliši zelo neudobno.)
Kdo to organizira in zakaj?
Ideja je brbotala po možganih več individuumov v LUGOS (Linux User Group of Slovenia) in Cyberpipe / Kiberpipa (meta)hackerspace, ampak letos smo se končno opogumili, da zadevo izvedemo.
Tega na delamo s profitnim namenom (tudi nič ne dobimo od referenčne povezave). Prav nasprotno: če ta projekt uspe, je dolgoročni cilj, da poskusimo prek donacij in mogoče sponzorstev preusmeriti sredstva tako, da bi omogočili potovanje na FOSDEM tudi tistim, ki si sicer potnih stroškov ne bi uspeli privoščiti.
Če potrebujete konkretno osebo za kontakt, je to lahko @hook (kontaktna stran).
English
(slovensko zgoraj)
This is the official thread to get information and ask questions about the HackerTrain to FOSDEM
(this, first comment will be updated when needed)
Who is invited?
Everyone going to FOSDEM who would like to go by train and socialise with other hackers
That said, this would be the easiest if you are planning to get on at any of the following: (Ljubljana ↦ ) Prague ↦ Ústí nad Labem ↦ Děčin ↦ Bad Schandau ↦ Dresden ↦ Berlin ↦ Deventer ↦ Amersfoort ↦ Amsterdam ↦ Den Haag ↦ Rotterdam ↦ Roosendaal ↦ Antwerpen ↦ Brussels
The idea is that we would gather people with similar interests along the way, have fun together and end up at FOSDEM.
Share the link to this forum topic with anyone who would be interested! (registration to the forum is open)
What will take place on the train?
On the night train from Prague to Brussels 2025-01-28T17:02:00Z→2025-01-29T08:27:00Z we will have an informal social gathering and organise a smaller unconference.
With European Sleeper we have an agreement that in January we (specifically @hook’s task) sync up, so the seats/beds/compartments would be arranged in a way where we can best socialise, while also not disturbing the other passengers too much.
On the train(s) to Prague there are no official plans, but it is, of course, encouraged that people meet each other already there and then. The website/application Traewelling can be of assistance here.
Route, prices and how to book
European Sleeper operates the Prague — Brussels night train year-long, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.
- SŽ to Prague
- 110 — 240 € return (first: cheapest; second: group ticket)
- 05:23 departs Ljubljana (via Jesenice: MV 318S, RJ 532, RJ 256) and arrives 17:13 in Praha hl.n.
- 05:00 departs Ljubljana (via Maribor: IC 151, RJ 74) and arrives 15:15 in Praha hl.n.; or if anything goes wrong with the transfer in Graz, arrives 17:20 in Prague hl.n (RJ 256)
- European Sleeper: Prague ↦ Ústí nad Labem ↦ Děčin ↦ Bad Schandau ↦ Dresden ↦ Berlin ↦ Deventer ↦ Amersfoort ↦ Amsterdam ↦ Den Haag ↦ Rotterdam ↦ Roosendaal ↦ Antwerpen ↦ Brussels
- seat: 50 € one way
- couchette: 80 € one way
- sleeper: 140 € one way
- 18:02 departs Prague and arrives 09:27 in Brussels the next day
Return trip Brussels — Prague year-long, Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
- European Sleeper: (same, but in reverse)
- seat: 60 € one way
- couchette: 90 € one way
- sleeper: 150 € one way
- 19:22 departs Brussels and arrives 11:24 in Prague the next day
- SŽ from Prague
- 12:42 departs Praha hl.n. (via Maribor: RJ 79, IC 250) and arrives 01:01 in Ljubljana the next day
Σ = 220 to 530 € – total cost depends on the tickets chosen.
European Sleeper has power sockets, but bring power strips!
Booking link for the night train (everyone books for themselves): https://www.europeansleeper.eu/referral?referralCode=TRAINTOFOSDEM
- 10% discount
- valid for travel on this route from 27 Jan to 9 Feb 2025
- (note: any trip from your home to Prague and back is not included in this link!)
What about Prague? Do we have enough time to transfer?
If we travel to Prague with SŽ on the same day, we only have 49’ to transfer, which given the current state of railways, is risky that we miss the night train.
This is why in Cyberpipe we decide to travel to Prague the day before, take a stroll through the city, perhaps see a hackerspace and sleep over. Of course, you are free to arrive to Prague or any other stop along the way however you wish.
The return trip is much more comfortable time-wise, so this problem is gone.
(BTW: GoOpti does not drive to Prague; FlixBus does, but the route sounds quite uncomfortable.)
Who is organising this and why?
The idea has been brewing in the minds of several individuals within LUGOS (Linux User Group of Slovenia) and its Cyberpipe / Kiberpipa (meta)hackerspace, but this year we got brave enough to actually try it.
We are not doing this for any financial gain (there is no kick-back on the referral link either). In fact, if this goes well, a long-term goal would be to try to pull in donations and perhaps sponsors, to reimburse those who would otherwise have trouble paying the full amount to travel to FOSDEM.
If you need a specific contact feel free to reach out to @hook (contact page).
(všečkaj) tole sporočilo (ali se mi drugače javi), pa pogledam kaj so opcije. Če ima kdo kak predlog, pa kar na dan z njim!